On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Raphael Vallazza wrote:
o there will not be a VIP on the director. Presumably the director will
advertise any VIPs.
Work, with the PREROUTING method.
sorry don't understand. Are you saying that there won't be a
VIP on the director with ipvs in PREROUTING either? (in
which case I'm happy)
o all filtering/fwmarks/NAT/firewalling that normally happens on
ingress/egress will not collide with ipvs.
Right, with the PREROUTING only fwmarks are set, filtering and NAT happens
it would be nice not to have to handle the ipvs packets with
a separate set of rules or thinking.
hmm, what's the NAT problem with having ipvs in the FORWARD chain? (or
have I missed your point?)
For transparent proxying there has to be a DNAT/REDIRECT to the local
machine, if the director/localnode applies the DNAT/REDIRECT rule it only
works on the localnode. The realservers get already NATed packets, and
replies have the wrong destination ports set.
you seem to be more interested in transparent proxy and
localnode than most other people on the ml so maybe you have
a different interest in it.
I regard transparent proxy only as a way of avoiding having
the VIP on the director (perhaps it has other virtues I've
ignored), which was pretty neat at the time and I was sorry
we lost that capability with 2.4.x kernels. With ipvs no
longer in LOCAL_IN, you don't have a requirement for the VIP
anymore and presumably you wouldn't need transparent proxy
People rarely use localnode. I wouldn't miss it if it didn't
exist. Do you want it for other reasons (eg sorry server)?
If for a sorry server, could we invoke something like
Julian's iproute2 trick that's currently being used to
emulate transparent proxy?
Yes, you're right. FORWARD could be interesting if the
localnode feature isn't required, but it wouldn't solve
the transparent proxy problem with localnode +
realservers. Well if i add a choice for a FORWARD method
the user could choose...
what's the localnode + realserver problem with transparent
The only negative thing is that traffic can't be filtered in a regular
it would be nice to avoid the collisions with firewall rules that we have
Yes, but i can't find a good solution for that if used together with
transparent proxying, the only one i've found was the PREROUTING one, any
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