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Re: [lvs-users] Apparent MTU problem using LVS-DR and Windows 2003 RealS

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Subject: Re: [lvs-users] Apparent MTU problem using LVS-DR and Windows 2003 RealServers
From: Caleb Anthony <caleb.anthony@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:38:26 -0600
This is interesting, because we use Windows realservers with LVS-DR (and
LVS-TUN too btw), with other Windows clients on the same subnet, and haven't
experienced any problems like you have. If you are interested in more
specifics on our setup, maybe to compare notes, just let me know.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Christopher Smith
<csmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Thanks for the responses, Simon and Joseph.
>
> I've managed to identify the key factor: only transfers from a Windows
> client *on the same subnet* fail.  If I use a Linux client on the same
> subnet, or move the Windows client to a different subnet, it works fine.
>  Additionally, *a direct connection between the client and the server* (ie:
> not using the VIP on the directors) on the same subnet also works fine.
>
> I've also identified this is a problem only when *sending data from the
> client to the RealServer* (using SFTP in the test case below).  Since I'm
> pretty sure the problem is independent of the protocol, and that everyone
> here will be more familiar with SFTP, I'm going to concentrate on getting
> that working first. :)
>
> In summary: if I have a Windows client, on the same subnet, I can't
> load-balance SFTP sends *TO* a Windows RealServer.  These other scenarios
> all work fine:
> * Linux client on same subnet
> * Windows client on different subnet
> * Linux client on different subnet
> * Any "pull" style transfers (eg: grabbing a file via HTTP - even large
> ones (5MB+))
>
>
> Since I needed to get the basic DICOM functionality up and running in the
> interim, I've temporarily moved the "production" clients onto a different
> subnet to get them going.  As such, the configuration has changed slightly
> since my first mail.
>
> The director VIP is: 10.183.3.116
> The MAC address for the interface it is on is: 00:0C:29:FB:40:F1
>
> The RealServer IP is: 10.183.3.115
> Its MAC is: 00:50:56:99:5C:E0
>
> The Client IP is: 10.183.3.244
> Its MAC is: 00:50:56:99:2B:6D
>
> MTU on all machines  is the standard 1500.
>
> The ldirectord config file is:
> autoreload = yes
> checkinterval = 30
> checktimeout = 3
> callback = "/etc/ha.d/resource.d/sync_config.sh"
> # SFTP.  Mainly used for testing
> virtual = 10.183.3.116:22
>        ## IMPORTANT.  The following directives for the
>        ## above virtual/service IP definition ***MUST*** be
>        ## indented by _at least_ four (4) spaces *OR* a single tab.
>        protocol = tcp
>        scheduler = rr
>        #persistent=600
>        #real = 10.183.3.113:22 gate
>        #real = 10.183.3.114:22 gate
>        real = 10.183.3.115:22 gate
>        checktype = connect
>        quiescent = no
> # SFTP.  Mainly used for testing
> virtual = 10.183.3.116:80 <http://10.183.3.116/>
>        ## IMPORTANT.  The following directives for the
>        ## above virtual/service IP definition ***MUST*** be
>        ## indented by _at least_ four (4) spaces *OR* a single tab.
>        protocol = tcp
>        scheduler = rr
>        #persistent=600
>        #real = 10.183.3.113:80 <http://10.183.3.113/> gate
>        #real = 10.183.3.114:80 <http://10.183.3.114/> gate
>        real = 10.183.3.115:80 <http://10.183.3.115/> gate
>        checktype = connect
>        quiescent = no
>
>
> It looks like the director is sending these:
> 07:39:56.419436 00:0c:29:fb:40:f1 > 00:50:56:99:2b:6d, ethertype IPv4
> (0x0800), length 590: 10.183.3.116 > 10.183.3.244: ICMP 10.183.3.116
> unreachable - need to frag (mtu 1500), length 556
>
> I also see a lot of TCP out-of-order, duplicate ACK and retransmission
> packets on the client.
>
> I have attached a tcpdump (from the director) and two wireshark pcap files
> (from the client and RealServer) that were captured during an attempt to
> SFTP a 512kb file from the client to the RealServer (I cancelled the copy
> about 30-45 seconds after it hung - it did not complete).  Any help anyone
> can offer in figuring out what is wrong, would be great, as I've exhausted
> my knowledge. :)
>
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Christopher Smith
>
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