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Re: [lvs-users] DR-TUN Issues: Packets become martians on real server

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Subject: Re: [lvs-users] DR-TUN Issues: Packets become martians on real server
From: "Timothy R. Weiand" <timothy.weiand@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:51:18 +0000
Ooohhhh!! Let me try this.

Thanks for the directions,
-Timothy
On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 1:55 PM Andrew Smalley <asmalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hi Timothy,
>
> I've been testing ipip (Tun mode) and I have it working,
>
> I note that the Weak ES Model needs to be accounted for and the tunl0
> should be a /32 not a /24 as you have it on the real server.
>
> ip addr add 192.168.200.11/24 brd 192.168.200.11 dev tunl1
>
> becomes
>
> ip addr add dev tunl1 192.168.200.11/32 brd 192.168.200.11 dev tunl1
>
>
> I also have this in my /etc/sysctl.conf
>
> net.ipv4.conf.all.arp_ignore=1
> net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_ignore=1
> net.ipv4.conf.tunl1.arp_ignore=1
> net.ipv4.conf.all.arp_announce=2
> net.ipv4.conf.eth0.arp_announce=2
> net.ipv4.conf.tunl1.arp_announce=2
>
> net.ipv4.conf.all.log_martians=1
> net.ipv4.conf.default.log_martians=1
>
> And I ran this script portion to enable forwarding and disable the
> rp_filter
>
> if [ $1 = "tunl1" ]; then
>         echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/tunl0/forwarding
>         echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/tunl0/rp_filter
> fi
>
>
> This is with a 4.4.49 Kernel
>
> I hope this help you
>
>
> Andruw Smalley
>
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>
> On 22 August 2017 at 12:43, Timothy R. Weiand <timothy.weiand@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Aaron:
> >
> > I was able to get LVS-TUN working in between subnets in AWS if the real
> > server is a 3.x kernel (RHEL to be specific). I had to set the
> destination
> > side of the tunnel and the address on that interface to the VIP. Then, I
> > configured unbound to listen for the VIP address.
> >
> > We are working with RedHat to get the 4.x kernels fixed. But, no
> timeframe
> > on that fix.
> >
> > FYI - We are going to work towards open sourcing our work so that
> everyone
> > can see exactly what we have done.
> >
> > -Timothy
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:56 AM Aaron West <aaron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Timothy,
> > >
> > > What you had working was it in AWS or VMWare?
> > >
> > > I've pretty much given up trying to get the spoofed reply traffic back
> > > out of AWS it gets dropped always with either DR mode or TUN unless I
> > > send it back via the director and that case I may as well do NAT mode
> > > instead...
> > >
> > > My understanding is that when egress traffic hits their edge they
> > > check the source matches the instance it came from and if it doesn't
> > > the packet gets dropped. However, all works fine if the client is in
> > > the same VPC so it doesn't need to go out past the edge of the VPC.
> > >
> > > Just interested if you found the same in your testing?
> > > Aaron West
> > >
> > > Loadbalancer.org
> > >
> > > www.loadbalancer.org
> > > +1 888 867 9504 / +44 (0)330 380 1064
> > > aaron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > LEAVE A REVIEW | DEPLOYMENT GUIDES | BLOG
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10 August 2017 at 18:08, Timothy R. Weiand <
> timothy.weiand@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Julian:
> > > >
> > > > Good news and bad news: this guidance helped me get LVS-TUN working
> with
> > > a
> > > > 3.10.0 kernel. But, I am not able to use the same configuration to
> get
> > > > 4.4.x,4.8.x or 4.12.x working. We are working on doing further
> analysis
> > > to
> > > > ensure it is kernel dependent and not distribution dependent. I hope
> to
> > > > find the kernel version that this configuration stops working.
> > > >
> > > > Note on 4.x machines: If we do not have the correct ip assigned to
> the
> > > > tunnel interface we can see traffic on that interface. But, if we
> use the
> > > > correct VIP then we no longer see the traffic.
> > > >
> > > > I will keep you updated as I find information out.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > -Timothy
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 4:25 PM Julian Anastasov <ja@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>         Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Timothy R. Weiand wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I am building a DR-TUN configuration to load balance DNS traffic.
> My
> > > >> issue
> > > >> > is with the real servers: the ipip packet get unwrapped and
> appears on
> > > >> the
> > > >> > tunnel interface and becomes a martian. Also, I have not been
> able to
> > > >> > determine how to bind to the tunnel interface to capture these
> > > packets. I
> > > >> > have verified details with tcpdump/dmesg. All my configuration is
> > > >> scripted
> > > >> > to ensure reproducibility. tcpdumps below do not show real DNS
> > > traffic;
> > > >> > using netcat to send text.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Much more detail can be supplied, please request it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Configuration:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ==============
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - All machines are currently Debian 9 (4.9.30-2+deb9u2)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - Client: 192.168.200.10
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - Director: 192.168.200.11
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - Real Server: 192.168.200.12
> > > >> >
> > > >> > - No VIP: I am using the IP address for my director interface -
> > > >> > 192.168.200.11
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Director Configuration:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ==================
> > > >> >
> > > >> > vagrant@debian-9-lb:~$ sudo ipvsadm -Ln
> > > >> >
> > > >> > IP Virtual Server version 1.2.1 (size=4096)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Prot LocalAddress:Port Scheduler Flags
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   -> RemoteAddress:Port           Forward Weight ActiveConn
> InActConn
> > > >> >
> > > >> > UDP  192.168.200.11:53 rr
> > > >> >
> > > >> >   -> 192.168.200.12:53            Tunnel  1      0          0
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Real Server:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ============
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # modprobe ipip
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # ip tunnel add tunl1 mode ipip ttl 32 local 192.168.200.12 remote
> > > >> > 192.168.200.11
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # ip link set tunl1 up arp off
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # echo 2 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # echo 2 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/default/rp_filter
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # echo 2 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/tunl0/rp_filter
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # echo 2 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/tunl1/rp_filter
> > > >>
> > > >>         tunl1/rp_filter=2 is ignored if there are no
> > > >> IPv4 addresses configured on tunl1, you can see
> > > >> __fib_validate_source() for reference:
> > > >>
> > > >>         if (no_addr)
> > > >>                 goto last_resort;
> > > >>
> > > >>         As result, packets are dropped as martians due to rpf=2.
> > > >>
> > > >>         To check if packets are dropped by routing try:
> > > >>
> > > >> ip route get from 192.168.200.10 to 192.168.200.11 iif tunl1
> > > >>
> > > >>         Here is small howto for TUN (outdated):
> > > >>
> > > >> http://ja.ssi.bg/TUN-HOWTO.txt
> > > >>
> > > >> > vagrant@debian-9-dns:~$ sudo tcpdump -e -n -s 0 -i tunl1 -vv
> > > >> >
> > > >> > tcpdump: listening on tunl1, link-type RAW (Raw IP), capture size
> > > 262144
> > > >> > bytes
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 10:16:13.919646 ip: (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 63545, offset 0, flags
> [DF],
> > > >> proto
> > > >> > UDP (17), length 40)
> > > >> >
> > > >> >     192.168.200.10.51149 > 192.168.200.11.53: [udp sum ok] 26226
> > > >> updateMA+
> > > >> > [b2&3=0x6f6d] [27753a] [11619q] [25966n] [29706au][|domain]
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If I add an IP address to the interface the packet never reaches
> tunl1
> > > >> >
> > > >> > # ip addr add 192.168.200.11/24 brd 192.168.200.11 dev tunl1
> > > >>
> > > >>         Try with (note mask /32):
> > > >>
> > > >> ip addr add 192.168.200.11/32 dev tunl1
> > > >>
> > > >>         as shown in LVS HOWTO (8.3):
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.austintek.com/LVS/LVS-HOWTO/HOWTO/LVS-HOWTO.LVS-Tun.html
> > > >>
> > > >> > Notes:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ======
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > LVS-DR was not an option because the real servers will be in
> different
> > > >> > subnets (I was able to get LVS-DR working though).
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am looking for advice on how to better understand or resolve
> this
> > > >> issue.
> > > >> > Or, who would be better to answer this question.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I have groked as many articles on how to setup this configuration
> as I
> > > >> can.
> > > >> > And, I have read a good deal of the archives of this mailing list.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Linux distributions I have tried are Debian, Ubuntu and Amazon
> linux.
> > > >> This
> > > >> > is been tested on both AWS and VMware fusion.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ------
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I have a feeling I am missing something simple...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -Timothy
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Julian Anastasov <ja@xxxxxx>
> > > >>
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