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RE: local node on failover server.

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Subject: RE: local node on failover server.
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From: PMilanese@xxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 08:42:48 -0500
I'd strongly agree. 

The system is designed for redundancy, and subjecting the load balancers
(backbone to the operation) to unnecessary tasks. In my experiences, LVS
does not need to be on a robust setup, so maybe you want to pull the
existing servers into the server pool and replace LVS with something
paired down. I use a couple of old Dell 350's for LVS (well.. about 3
years old). I have 5 6650's blown out on the backend, and had no downtime
on the frontend for 3 years and change (with the exception of that silly
NE power outage). Once in a while, I test the backup box just for
reassurance. 

Split the roles. Keep it simple. It will pay off.

P

> -----Original Message-----
> From: lvs-users-bounces+pmilanese=nypl.org@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:lvs-users-bounces+pmilanese=nypl.org@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Mack.Joseph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:31 AM
> To: LinuxVirtualServer.org users mailing list.
> Subject: Re: local node on failover server.
> 
> Joseph Mack PhD, High Performance Computing & Scientific Visualisation
> LMIT, Supporting the EPA Research Triangle Park, NC 919-541-0007
> Federal Contact - John B. Smith 919-541-1087 - smith.john@xxxxxxx
> 
> lvs-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 03/02/2005 08:03:25
> AM:
> 
> 
> > As all 5 machines are pretty beefy, and i use LVS-dr, i wanted the
> > balancers to also be realservers. I used the local node "feature"
> > (why on earth is this called a feature),
> 
> we're up for suggestions. I don't like all of the names used
> in LVS but haven't been able to think of anything better myself.
> 
> > If i add the VIP with noarp to the load balancer,
> > hearthbeat would not
> > be able to setup the VIP when it needed to become the loadbalancer,
> > so is there any way to tell hearthbeat to toggle the noarp
> > switch on the load balancers instead of adding/removing the VIP?
> 
> sure. It's a nightmare of scripts that will probably fail under some
> condition you don't expect and will be impossible for someone else
> to debug. An idle server is a small price to pay for robustity.
> In the early days of LVS we thought it would be trivial to promote
> a realserver to be a director when the director failed, by running
> a few setup scripts. While simple in concept, it turned out that it
> was simpler just to have a standby director just parked there
> waiting to take over. Brute force and low tech usually win when
> reliability is required.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
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