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Re: Turbo linux clusters as compared to lvs?

To: "Andrej Brodnik (Andy)" <Andrej.Brodnik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Turbo linux clusters as compared to lvs?
Cc: catls@xxxxxxxxx, lvs-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Joseph Mack <mack@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 06:17:38 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Andrej Brodnik wrote:

> > This is a somewhat sensitive topic on this list. The turbolinux people
> > used the LVS GPL'ed code to make their own non GPL'ed version of LVS ...
> 
> This is simply not true. The reason that I can give such an authorative answer
> is that I personally participated in the design of the product for
> TurboLinux. The design of the code for TurboClusterServer 4.0 was done
> completely from scratch (indeed Turbolinux put such a requirement to us before
> we even started the design). To clarify even further, the TCS 4.0 consists of
> several pieces of SW -- kernel and user space. In particular, the kernel-space
> is under GPL and can be found on their ftp site somewhere.

Hi Andrej,

        You don't mention TurboClusterServer 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0

Here's a posting on this mailing list from one of your people

>Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 06:44:20 +0900
>From: Cliff Miller <cliff@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: wensong@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>I must apologize to you and the other developers of the Linux Virtual
>Server project for PHT's neglecting to mention the Linux Virtual
>Server project in our press releases and product literature thus
>far. This sloppy oversight on our part came about primarily because of 
>tight deadlines and a lack of communication between myself and other
>people within PHT.  It is my responsibility -- please accept my
>sincere apologies.  We will be sure to give credit to the Linux
>Virtual Server work in all of our future press releases and other
>materials.

we receive similar abject apologies when you forget to mention us in
subsequent announcements.

>Finally, please take this email as an attempt to correct our mistake
>and to make our relationship better. I really hope that we can do some
>things together and that PHT will be able to offer something to the
>project that you have started. 

You people read our mailing lists, have access to our code and yet never
contribute anything here. Yet you are quick enough to pop up and defend
your clean room reconstruction of our code, whenever it's mentioned. If
you were really doing this independently of us, you wouldn't be on our
mailing list. If you were on this mailing list in good faith, you would
have contributed something by now.

Joe

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Joseph Mack mack@xxxxxxxxxxx



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