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Re: Linux PR

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Subject: Re: Linux PR
From: Joe Cooper <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:26:07 -0600
I think you're off by a bit. I've been following the LinuxVSD project for some time now. It's purpose is the precise reverse of LVS.

Instead of putting one website (or whatever) on many servers. It puts many websites on one server. However, the twist is that with FreeVSD, each client has their own Apache (they can even compile their own or run their own modules), Sendmail, BIND, etc. Each client operates in a chrooted environment, and each has their own IP--they have an 'admin' class username with pseudo-root priviledges in their own chrooted environment. So it's like having a colocated server, but the resources are shared amongst several websites. Beautiful concept, since most websites can't even begin to tax the server they run on. Most websites could be sharing a modest server's resources with ten or twenty or a hundred similar sites.

The target of this project is obviously colo and hosting providers...this is the logical in-between step if shared hosting is too limiting, and colo is too expensive. The only negative I see is that it requires an IP for each "virtual server". But then again, if you're a website designed who provides managed services...you could have one of these virtual servers on a shared server and provide a number of Apache virtual hosts, as well.

Interesting stuff! And a reasonable mistake to make, regarding what it does, since you guys are all coming at it from the perspective of needing a bunch of boxes just to run /one/ website! ;-)

Ed Crotty wrote:

hahah!

i went through some of the mailing lists trying to piece things
together... thats the end result i came up with (be it wrong or right).

if it is the case, this is a pretty nifty tool.

if not, it should be started! :)

-ed

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Mack <mack.joseph@xxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, March 5, 2001 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: Linux PR


Ed Crotty wrote:

i was looking over freevsd stuff... it actually is somewhat
interesting... it seems that the approach is not so much for load
balancing but from a "virtual" server on the front end line..

for instance :

                virtual server abc
                  running on public
                   net  - linux
                        |
                        | skel layer (?) (i looked at it quick :D)
                        |
                       /\
                      /  \
                   real1  real2

so if you hit the virtual from lets say a ssh standpoint, you

would have

access to work on both reals from the virtual fs at the same time

and it

would replicate beyond to the real servers any changes / updates...

am i understanding it correctly or am i giving it too much credit?

There's a lot of good ideas and smart people out there and I wouldn't
assume that we have the corner on either of those markets

I looked through all the press releases looking for info till my eyes glazed over. I don't know how you managed to get this
much out of their web site. I'm assuming there's good stuff in there
although I don't know what it is yet.

Joe

--
Joseph Mack PhD, Senior Systems Engineer, Lockheed Martin
contractor to the National Environmental Supercomputer Center, mailto:mack.joseph@xxxxxxx ph# 919-541-0007, RTP, NC, USA


                                  --
                     Joe Cooper <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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