Re: Can LVS do this?

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Subject: Re: Can LVS do this?
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:23:35 -0600 (CST)
whats that, are you generating too much traffic to your new spiffy
doing-too-much-work dns server to support your new spiffy geographically
distributed lvs systems?

no problem.

just run a bank of dns servers behind an lvs implementation to distribute
the load.

whats that?  sometimes your dns servers perform slowly because your isp
sometimes has bandwidth issues so you want to geographically distrute your
dns servers?

no problem.

just run a set of dns servers behind a...


sorry.  couldn't resist.


On 27 Feb 2002, Derek Glidden wrote:

> On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 11:58, Joseph Mack wrote:
> > Gre7g Luterman wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > We have solid hardware running FreeBSD, Apache, and Mysql off of a
> > > business grade DSL line.  But there are times when our ISP gets
> > > bottlenecked and even though our server is sitting on its thumbs,
> > > waiting for requests, the clients are not getting good response time.
> > >
> > > What I would like to do is set up N systems located in different
> > > places with different ISPs and then set up some sort of external
> > > monitor that can watch them and direct traffic... balance traffic not
> > > only based on load but on performance.  Is this something that LVS
> > > can do?
> >
> > the short answer is no.
> >
> > [snip]
> The company I work for works with F5 when we can't (political reasons
> usually) put a home-grown LVS box in a customer site.  The F5 "3DNS" and
> "BigIP" servers can do this kind of geographically-diverse
> load-balancing.  They do it by being tricksy with DNS:
> When a hostname lookup comes into their DNS server, it immediately
> responds with whichever IP is currently the highest in priority, but
> with a 0-second live time for the response, which means the next request
> that same client makes from the server will also require another DNS
> lookup.  (i.e. the next link on your website that gets clicked)  At the
> moment of the first request from a new client IP, the DNS server pokes
> all the various load-balancers to ask them to find out which one has the
> best response time to this particular client IP and the next time that
> client asks for DNS resolution of the hostname, the DNS server responds
> with the IP of the load balancer that has the best response (that also
> has real-servers that are alive and well of course).
> The reason I mention this is because one of the guys in the office here
> has said he's gotten this kind of thing to work with BIND and our
> LVS-based boxes.  I haven't actually talked to him much about it, so I
> can't give more details, but I can ask what he's done.  A google search
> may turn something up as well.
> The advantage is, it doesn't require any modifications to the core LVS
> code, since you have a separate daemon sitting around doing the
> traffic/network analysis and the hard work is done at your DNS server.
> The disadvantage is, you need to be able to run and maintain your own
> DNS server to use this method, which not everyone is able or capable of
> doing.

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