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RE: Hardware Question + LVS Question

To: "'LinuxVirtualServer.org users mailing list.'" <lvs-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Hardware Question + LVS Question
From: Peter Mueller <pmueller@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 12:15:00 -0700

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsc3@xxxxxxx [mailto:jsc3@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:20 AM
> To: LinuxVirtualServer.org users mailing list.
> Subject: Re: Hardware Question + LVS Question
> -> I have not used a celeron, but without a cache, you're 
> getting half 
> -> the performance for 3/4 the cost. I don't know how 
> important the cost 
> -> is, but you'd get better performance with a CPU with some cache on 
> -> it.

Of course, the CPU is not nearly the majority of the cost of the entire
hardware.  We're talking about $50-100 US for a ~$1000+ server, right? ;-)

> Sorry Joe, not to get argumentative, but I respectfully disagree.
> 
> The Celeron has a cache, but it is 128K as opposed to 256K on 
> the older Pentium 4s and 512K cache on the latest (C model) 
> Pentium 4s. This is true going back all the way to the 
> Celeron 300A, which was based on a Pentium II core and ran at 
> 300 MHz.  The cache runs at full processor speed, unless they 
> have changed that recently:

Unfortunately on a firewall with even a moderate amoun of rules cache is
very important, at least at > 50 mb/s speeds.  The more rules that stay in
cache the faster your firewall is.  If you are talking about < 10mb/s it
doesn't really matter, anything faster than a sparc 20 or a p3-450 will do
fine ;-).

> http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/processors/celeron/detail.htm
>
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030217/cpu_charts-32.html#comparison_tabl
e

> Looking at my favorite vendor, http://www.newegg.com, a 2.2 GHz Celeron
retail
> box set goes for $77 shipped (2.0 GHz is $67, 2.4 GHz is $92), and 2.4 GHz
> Celeron retail box is $167 shipped.

I always did like Tomshardware ;-).  For $96 (1-2 day shipping included) I
can get an AMD Athlon XP 2600 from picewatch.com.  FYI I did get one item
from Newegg once, very nice packaging and no hassle!

> This works out to about 80% of the performance at 55% of the cost.

Yes, 55% of the performance for the CPU only.  Or you can go with an Athlon
XP 2600 and get potentially more performance, especially for a firewall/LVS
director.  BTW, vi is better.  Beer > wine.  Cats > dogs.  KDE > Gnome.
You'll have to forgive me, it's Monday here and I can't think of any more
inflammatory statements at the moment.

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