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Re: LVS Beginner's question.

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Subject: Re: LVS Beginner's question.
From: Wayne <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:00:06 -0700
Thanks for the support.  Maybe I took too much time from everyone
for this topics.  But I think Wensong, Julian, Joe, Horms, and many
many others worked so hard on their own time to make this project
possible.  Most of us on this list benefit from this project, commercially
or personally.  It is only fair that if you take from this pot, you should
put the change back to this pot for benefiting others, Shmoe or not
should allow asking for the code changes. That is the only way
avoiding to pay Microsoft $1000 licensing fee per CPU.

At 01:11 AM 4/16/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I just thought I'd give my perspective on this discussion, and my support for 
>the "free" side of the distribution arguement. (Speaking totally as a Shmoe, 
>as I am not a Linux administrator but an English major interested in learning 
>all things Linux to help distribute my content on the web.) I can remember 6+ 
>years ago pre-web boom when Windows had been for years vastly encroaching on 
>UNIX' share of business computing. Then the web hit, and I think that to a 
>large extent the rapidity of the expansion of the Internet was based largely 
>on the free availability of Linux (who'd heard of that?) and Apache, as well 
>as the millions of quality development hours by developers everywhere. From my 
>general understanding of the term "open source", it means for example that 
>when I buy a Sams book on Linux there is a fully functioning copy of Linux on 
>the CD inside, whereas with Windows there is only a 90 or 120 day evaluation 
>version, even if it is a set of books by MS and costs 150.00+. You could 
>imagine if everyone who wanted to learn Linux or run a web server (or a 
>hundred of them) in the past few years was forced to buy a 1000.00 per CPU 
>license, aside from the cost of the CPU. There is a very common sense reason 
>why Apache dominates two-thirds of the web server market, and this 
>availability has had a profound effect on the creation of new business and 
>ability of previously unheard persons around the world to communicate. "The 
>Revolution", I think they call it, or so they used to. In my opinion the open 
>source community should very seriously guard and cherish their 
>accomplishments. Now down off the box.
>
>Daniel
>
>
>>From: Wayne <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: lvs-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: lvs-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: Re: LVS Beginner's question.
>>Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:53:07 -0700
>>
>>At 08:47 PM 4/15/2002 +1000, you wrote:
>>>On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 01:23:12PM -0500, Michael E Brown wrote:
>>>> One other simple point that is often overlooked: You are only obligated to
>>>> release source code to people you have distributed binaries to.
>>>>
>>>> Joe Shmoe off the street has no right to ask for your GPL'd code unless he
>>>> has also gotten (or paid for, as the case may be) a binary from you.
>>>
>>>This may be true, but once someone has a copy of the source they may
>>>redistribute it as they please, including handing a copy over to Joe Shmoe.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Horms
>>>
>>
>>Under the GPL, section 2, subsection 3, second paragraph, it stated:
>>"b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole
>>or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to
>>be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of
>>this License"
>>
>>It stated the ALL third parties.  It did not say that only give to the party
>>who received the binaries.
>>
>>
>>
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